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		<title>Understanding contradictions: 1 Cor 14:34 (Part 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; In part one I drew attention to the problem that this verse seems to contradict what Paul himself approves and to some funny things going on in and around the verse. Here I&#8217;ll focus on my reason for mentioning this, how we should respond when a Bible passage seems to contradict what the [...]]]></description>
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<p>In part one I drew attention to the problem that this verse seems to contradict what Paul himself approves and to some funny things going on in and around the verse. Here I&#8217;ll focus on my reason for mentioning this, how we should respond when a Bible passage seems to contradict what the same author says or does elsewhere&#8230;</p>
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<h2>The audio file is here: <a title="Download audio" href="http://5minuteBible.com/audio2/1cor14.34.part2.mp3">Understanding contradictions: 1 Cor 14:34 (Part 2</a>)</h2>
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		<title>Understanding contradictions: 1 Cor 14:34 (Part 1)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps no Bible text illustrates the dangers of a simplistic reading of Scripture than 1 Cor 14:34. If we tear this verse from its cotext,1 and then read it as if the Bible were &#8220;God&#8217;s instruction manual for life&#8221; and even worse read it also literally then we are in trouble! The verse (in the [...]]]></description>
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<p>Perhaps no Bible text illustrates the dangers of a simplistic reading of Scripture than 1 Cor 14:34.</p>
<p>If we tear this verse from its <a href="http://hypertextbible.org/amos/amos/language/cotext.htm">cotext</a>,<sup><a href="http://5minutebible.com/understanding-contradictions-1-cor-1434-part-1/#footnote_0_1455" id="identifier_0_1455" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Or for a podcast. ">1</a></sup> and then read it as if the Bible were &#8220;God&#8217;s instruction manual for life&#8221; and even worse read it also literally then we are in trouble! The verse (in the fairly literal NET)<sup><a href="http://5minutebible.com/understanding-contradictions-1-cor-1434-part-1/#footnote_1_1455" id="identifier_1_1455" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Even the NRSV is less literal here omiting the &amp;#8220;the&amp;#8221; before women, one of the oddities of this verse is that Paul seems to be talking about some particular women. ">2</a></sup> reads:</p>
<blockquote><p>the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak. Rather, let them be in submission, as in fact the law says.</p></blockquote>
<p>The verse is full of oddities.<sup><a href="http://5minutebible.com/understanding-contradictions-1-cor-1434-part-1/#footnote_2_1455" id="identifier_2_1455" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Another is the way most English translations make the first sentence a run-on from the verse before, though many MSS mark vv.34-5 off from the surrounding texts. ">3</a></sup> Not the least of which is that in 1 Cor 11:4-6 Paul assumes that both women and men will pray and prophesy, and in this same chapter 1 Cor 14:4-5 suggests the same thing, and that this is indeed in the public meeting (cf. v.4). Paul seems to be contradicting himself!</p>
<p>What is going on, and how should we interpret such passages?</p>
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<h2>Here is the audio (of part one): <a title="Click for the MP3 file" href="http://5minuteBible.com/audio2/1cor14.34.mp3">Understanding contradictions: 1 Cor 14:34 (Part 1</a>)</h2>
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<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_1455" class="footnote"> Or for a <a href="http://5minutebible.com/a-text-without-contexts-is-dumb-2-text-without-cotext-is-dumb/">podcast</a>. </li><li id="footnote_1_1455" class="footnote"> Even the NRSV is less literal here omiting the &#8220;the&#8221; before women, one of the oddities of this verse is that Paul seems to be talking about some particular women. </li><li id="footnote_2_1455" class="footnote"> Another is the way most English translations make the first sentence a run-on from the verse before, though many <a href="http://bible.gen.nz/amos/glossary/manuscript.htm">MSS </a>mark vv.34-5 off from the surrounding texts. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Text,  canon, and the woman caught in adultery</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The pericope in John 7:53-8:11 is a fascinating test case in the interaction of text criticism and canon. Both the history of canon, and textual criticism seem dull and unexciting. Yet here they combine into a detective story or a theological conundrum that contributes to making the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy conflict with most [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2F5minutebible.com%2Ftext-canon-and-the-woman-caught-in-adultery%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=false&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><p>The <a name="1"></a><a href="#fn1">pericope</a> in John 7:53-8:11 is a fascinating test case in the interaction of text criticism and canon. Both the history of canon, and textual criticism seem dull and unexciting. Yet here they combine into a detective story or a theological conundrum that contributes to making the <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/%7Ephil/creeds/chicago.htm">Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy</a> conflict with most Christian preachers&#8217; practice! In this post I won&#8217;t address the <a href="#fn2">detective story</a>. But I will discuss this passage as a hint that we need a supple and flexible view of Scripture to deal &#8220;properly&#8221; with this passage.</p>
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<hr /><a name="fn1"></a>Note 1. The word &#8220;pericope&#8221; is transliterated from Greek, it is used in theology and biblical studies to refer to a traditional textual unit, especially one used as a unit in church or synagogue. By extension it is sometimes used as a fancy way of saying &#8220;textual unit&#8221;. Here it would appear that our text was such a traditional unit in the early period, but by the time the chapter divisions were made the first verse had been attached to the &#8220;previous&#8221; unit. [<a href="#1"><sub>RETURN</sub></a>]</p>
<p><a name="fn2"></a>Note 2. For the detective story approach see e.g. <a class="boldlink" href="http://www.bsw.org/project/biblica/bibl80/Ani01.htm">A. Watson, <span class="article">“Jesus and the Adulteress”</span></a> in <span class="journal">Biblica</span> 80 (1999): 100-108 [<a href="#1"><sub>RETURN</sub></a>] </p>
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